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Tapirapi ¿0.0?
15-12-05, 09:20 PM
Pos que se cacharon al Bush diciendo que la constitución política de su país era tan sólo un pedazo "goddamned" de papel...

ya busqué por todos lados y no encuentro una traducción a es palabreja...

pero ya hasta encontré esta imagen:

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/lavatory.jpg

Aquí la nota:


Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 07:53
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Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”

And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “goddamned piece of paper” used to guarantee.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”

Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine – in the end – if something is legal or right.

Every federal official – including the President – who takes an oath of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a “living document.”

“"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have—a 'living document,’” Scalia says. “We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.”

As a judge, Scalia says, “I don't have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it's better than anything else.”

President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a “union between a man and woman.” Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.

Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.

“We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,” Scalia warns. “Don't think that it's a one-way street.”

And don’t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.

But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just “a goddamned piece of paper.”



¿Alguien sabe?:6sw1:

edgardini
15-12-05, 09:46 PM
Pos que se cacharon al Bush diciendo que la constitución política de su país era tan sólo un pedazo "goddamned" de papel...

ya busqué por todos lados y no encuentro una traducción a es palabreja...

¿Alguien sabe?:6sw1:

Pinche o similares.

No busques una traducción exacta. God damned sería algo como "Maldecido por Dios".

Usa la frase que mas te convenga. :)

"No es mas que un pinche pedazo de papel".

EV

koyuca
15-12-05, 11:21 PM
goddammed significa, literalmente condenado/maldito por dios

coloquialmente se usa significando: maldito en sentido despectivo, de ahí que edgardini lo interprete como pinche, despreciable, deleznable, prescindible, etc.

bush tiene razón: una constitución es un pedazo de papel, pero eso no es lo que importa sino los valores éticos y morales que prescribe como normas del estado y de la sociedad

y precisamente por eso atacó a iraq. le valen madre los valores éticos y morales de la sociedad yanqui porque es un simple pendejete manejable, es un poco como el personaje del libro de koschinsky (?) que de simple jardinero pasa a presidente de los eua sin tener la más puta idea de lo que estaba sucediendo. a diferencia del personaje del libro donde el jardinero es un hombre "manso" de corazón, en la realidad bush es un pendejete manipulable porque es un desequilibrado mental

Le Rouge
15-12-05, 11:26 PM
En este caso "god damned" combinado con "just" es una forma de minimizar el valor de algo, la traducción mas polite y correcta sería "Es solo un simple pedazo de papel" y la mas literal sería "Es solo un maldito pedazo de papel papel"

el_indeseable
16-12-05, 02:32 AM
como quien dice el trozo de papel que se usa para limpiar cierta parte de la anatomia humana una ves sastifecha cierta funcion fisiologica .un diputado de mi pais en cierta ocasion dijo " LA CONSTITUCION PUEDE SER VIOLADA " Y un alto ejecutivo de una transnacional afincada dijo que " UNA MULA VALE MAS QUE LA CONSTITUCION DE ESTE PAIS " con lo que se demuestra que no hay nada nuevo bajo el sol que loque alguien dijo ya antes otra persona lo ha dicho y en mejor forma.

Morgana
16-12-05, 10:20 AM
Bueno que podíamos esperar de don Bush, si ya quemó la mayoría de sus neuronas en alcohol, lo que le quedó no le alcanza para nada más.