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Coeficiente Intelectual Nazi
In 1945, an army psychologist named G.M. Gilbert, was allowed to examine the Nazi leaders who were tried at Nuremberg for war crimes. Among other tests, a German version of the Wechsler-Bellevue was administered. Here are the results:
1 Hjalmar Schacht 143
2 Arthur Seyss-Inquart 141
3 Hermann Goering 138
4 Karl Doenitz 138
5 Franz von Papen 134
6 Eric Raeder 134
7 Dr. Hans Frank 130
8 Hans Fritsche 130
9 Baldur von Schirach 130
10 Joachim von Ribbentrop 129
11 Wilhelm Keitel 129
12 Albert Speer 128
13 Alfred Jodl 127
14 Alfred Rosenberg 127
15 Constantin von Neurath 125
16 Walther Funk 124
17 Wilhelm Frick 124
18 Rudolf Hess 120
19 Fritz Sauckel 118
20 Ernst Kaltenbrunner 113
21 Julius Streicher 106
PAGINA REFERENCIA (http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/grady/nazi.html)
Yo pense que Speer estaba en mejor lugar, de Kaltenbrunner si lo creo; y era obvio que el artifice del milagro economico este en 1er lugar. Ahora me pregunto como el cerebro de embrión (palabras de Goering), reunio a esos nada despreciables coeficientes.
Le Rouge
18-08-05, 06:14 PM
Yo creo que las altas personalidades de cualquier gobierno de primer mundo e incluso muchas tambien del tercero, tienen inteligencias muy por arriba del 100 IQ. Si no, no estarían ahí...
Spiderman
18-08-05, 06:28 PM
No recuerdo qué periodista dio el dato, pero se hablaba de que el IQ del Chapo Guzmán es muy superior a la media nacional... Será?
Tiefer Verstand
18-08-05, 07:07 PM
De ahi tal vez que entre la cuestion organica (cerebro) y cultura, de la genialidad a la locura hay solo un paso y tal vez del lo más bajo a los más alto la distancia tampoco es enorme, la sabiduria de "los extrremos se tocan aqui hace gala".
Tendrá gente de mayor IQ una concepción diferente de las "grandes tragedias" de los de a pie, de los ciudadanitos conveniconales y minusculos escondidos en sus plazas de trabajo y de su vida superflua e inutil en general ?
Aspiraran a algo superior pero frustrados ante tanta bestezuela optan por el camino de la devastación ?
Interesante...
Ahh que nazis tan bestias estos, combatieron con cerebro lo que los aliados con masacote masivo.
Spiderman
18-08-05, 07:08 PM
Ahh que nazis tan bestias estos, combatieron con cerebro lo que lso aliados con masacote masivo.jajaja! de veras, qué bestias! :D
Segun estadisticas del FBI, los criminales psicopaticos (asesinos y violadores en serie, pedofilos, necrofilos, etc.) en EEUU son generalmente caucasicos, de situacion social buena, familias bien constituidas y de elevado coeficiente intelectual (muchos CIs de 130 puntos)...
Cuidado.
siempre había pensado que los negros eran los criminales, holigud si influye
Tiefer Verstand
19-08-05, 10:24 AM
negros criminales... sí en el cine y en los medios y los mexicanos también... Es que que horror encerrar a un blanco, rico y además inteligente... que afrenta para el orgullo WASP...
Pues yo digo que nos echemos unas bien frias, a que hora cierran el Cemefo.
:lol:
PARA MUESTRA:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/DennisRaderDL.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTK_killer
No confundamos delito comun con crimenes psicopaticos.
Siendo el 70% de la poblacion de EEUU, los blancos - obviamente - conforman el 50% aprox de la poblacion penal. Los negros, siendo alrededor del 10% de la poblacion de EEUU, conforman casi el 50% RESTANTE de la poblacion penal (y esta proporcion se repite en los que estan en "Death Row" o "la lista de espera" para ejecucion)
En cuanto a los crimenes cometidos por psicopatas, los porcentajes son proporcionales a los indices demograficos estadounidenses (incluso es mayor la proporcion blanca).
La respuesta esta en la mente del psicopata: generalmente un ser de inteligencia normal a superior, buen nivel educacional, buen nivel laboral, absolutamente amoral, frio, calculador, cinico, mitomano, megalomano, con un grave complejo de "dios", o sea que se cree con derecho a dar o quitar la vida a los seres "inferiores" que lo rodean (sus victimas son como "animalitos" en los cuales el prueba su destreza para engañarlos y obtiene "diversion" en su terror y agonia). Incluso consideran "inferior" a la policia y disfrutan enviando "pistas" o dejando "evidencia" para burlarse de ella y restregarles su incapacidad para dar con el; ademas de obtener un plus al utilizar los medios de comunicacion para satisfacer su ego y demostrarle al mundo que nadie puede atraparlos (cada titular sobre su crimen es orgasmico).
Y hay psicopatas que nunca han sido capturados y sus crimenes continuan sin resolver.
Le Rouge
19-08-05, 07:38 PM
Aqui algo en contra de lo que dices Szombor:
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<!--- end image ---> <!--- ad ---><!--- end ad ---> If this is true, how come Hannibal Lector got caught? Oh, yeah, because the police are even smarter! This scenario makes both the serial killers and the cops feel good about themselves. In reality, serial killers are of average intelligence. Clearly, they never really made use of their brains which explains why most have low level jobs and make poor decisions. In fact, it is exactly these poor decisions that get them in trouble on their jobs, in their relationships, and in their crimes.
Killers can seem smart when you can't figure out who they are. Actually, it is just the nature of these kinds of crimes which make the killer seem to be a brilliant opponent. First of all, since no one sees the killer commit the crime, there is no one to identify and put in a lineup. Most serial killers operate in cities and suburbs as opposed to small towns for a reason. If the town has fewer than 500 residents, after you lop off the female percentage of the population and then eliminate the kids and people in wheelchairs, the townspeople could probably point out weird Johnny as the guilty party. However, in the middle of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Manhattan</st1:city></st1:place>, the police pretty much just shrug their shoulders and hope for a lucky break.
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<!--- end image --->My favorite choice for disproving the "serial killers are brilliant" concept is to take a look at Ted Bundy, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s most famous serial killer. It is said how terribly smart he was; that this is why it took so long to catch him. Is this the same Ted who couldn't make it through law school, who drove a GOLD Volkswagen to the lake in broad daylight and went up to women he was planning to kidnap saying, "Hi! My name is TED!"? Is this the same brilliant guy who nearly strangled his girlfriend who then found in his bureau drawer the plaster of Paris he used for fake casts in some of his abduction ruses? This same girlfriend and a couple of other people who knew him went to the police with their suspicions. The police ignored the information because he didn't seem the type. I think the movie "Dumb and Dumber" comes to mind for the killer and cops involved here. Ted was finally caught, not by clever investigative work but because he was caught speeding. He was so bright that he lied to the police officer about seeing a movie the cop knew didn't exist and then he let the police officer look into his trunk and note his rather obvious rape kit. Ted was by no means brilliant and it was the solid work of a beat cop that got a killer off the streets. Bobbie Joe Leonard was clearly also a few numerals short of a Mensa invitation. Although he thinks his story about dropping the girl off at the motel was pretty good and that no one could actually prove he was with her at the time of the crime, it is rather curious that her body shows up in one of the buildings they work at, some 20 miles from that motel. I guess he could say she must have changed her mind and gotten a ride over to the work location but that is a bit of a stretch. Of course, he is still assuming that the prosecutor will not go to court without DNA evidence, so even if it is an odd coincidence that she got murdered after he dropped her off, there is still no absolute proof that he is guilty of any crime.
SERIAL KILLER MYTHS EXPOSED (http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/profiling/s_k_myths/index.html?sect=20)
Y la escritora tiene autoridad para especular de la forma en que lo hace, aunque ciertamente no habla de exámenes de IQ, sino simplemente especula sobre este. Es un artículo interesante de cualquier forma.
Saludos.
Le Rouge
19-08-05, 07:42 PM
...
alguno de ustedes, saben el coeficiente intelectual de Bush y Fox?...
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Uno, el presidente del país mas poderoso de la tierra y sus alrededores...
El otro, el presidente del cambio...
d2:
Por algun motivo, algunos psicopatas asesinos en serie, disfrutan dejando pistas de manera que se vuelve un juego macabro para demostrar su inteligencia sobre la policía.
De alguna manera están diciendo "ATRAPENME SI PUEDEN".
¡SALUDOS!
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